Religion, Politics and Faith

Certain people like to make a lot out of the line between politics and religion, which must be written somewhere in stone though I can never find it. Still, they like to make an issue of any perception of ‘matters of faith’ intermingling in politics. They like their politics free from religion. You hear the message all the time.  That is only an appetizer for some recent coverage.

CNN did a segment on religion, more specifically Christianity. (always open season on Christians) Apparently there is a new poll out saying Americans are losing their faith in God. Exact wording does not matter. They covered the spectrum.  It just said the fewer people all the time believe in God, and that increasingly more people are “questioning the existence of God”. The numbers supposedly are increasing so much that a study claims in a few decades or so this minority will result in few people of that belief and thus few Christians.

That topic started a prolonged segment about it, including an atheist and others. They started asking for scientific proof of God, asserting without proof its hard to maintain that belief. This all went on mostly agreeing that there is a lack of proof.

Then they rambled on about what it will be like when Christians are a small minority etc. The atheist said that they will treat that “minority” of believers decently with respect and not hate them; unlike the way he claims Christians treat them now. They went on postulating about a topic that seemed to fascinate them — which could reverse a long established tradition favoring Christianity. So they had fun criticizing the “norm” at Christians expense, theorizing but never determining the exact reason for the supposed shift.

Watch here.  (in part)

But after that long segment CNN anchors switched to talking politics. They jumped onto the subject of disagreement with Obama and the reporter interrupting Obama in his “press conference” Then the panelist decided that racism was really behind opposition and distrust of Obama. Game, set, match it was all over. The lady had sung. They concluded “racism” is behind it, who can deny that? So without proof, let alone scientific evidence, they have complete faith that racism is behind Obama’s opposition. Driven by race. They declared it a self-evident fact. Can anyone take these people seriously?

They need no evidence whatsoever to believe racism is a real political problem. How many of their own “golden rules” did they break?

I tried to find the particlular poll they referred to but didn’t. I did see several articles and polls, some dating back to 2004, basically all claiming the same thing: Christians are in the minority category. The subject is belief in God is waning. Its funny how “belief” in all kinds of other things, even in politics, like racism toward Obama,  seem to be on the rise and flourishing. Do you think there is a connection? That kind of conclusion might be challenged, you know, for lack of scientific data or proof.  But racism is alive and thriving in presidential politics. Can’t you see it everywhere?

Rreference:
http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
(2-’08 based on a 2007 survey)
http://cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2012/06/17/exp-existence-of-god.cnn.html
Not the same video but another statement he made on the topic
http://cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2012/06/18/don-lemon-no-talking-points-interruption.cnn.html

20 comments on “Religion, Politics and Faith

  1. bullright says:

    Incidentally, the same “news show” remarked how anyone else, namely ‘a white guy’, would never receive such vulgar disrespect or treatment. Of course this was within a week of reports that HBO featured George Bush’s head on stick in one of its shows. Understandably, there was a shortage on the set and a Bush prop just happened to be available; purely coincidental and all very innocent. They issued a quick regret and media moved on – any who cared about it.

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    • pepperhawk says:

      Oh Bull I meant to comment to this before. Yeah, George Bush’s head on a stick. And sure they were needing props. Is that not disgusting? And how about the movie made while GW was in office and the movie was about assassinating him? I would call that vulgar disrespect in both instances. Everything is about race to these people. I just tell folks like that, that calling me a racist doesn’t work any longer. Geesh, how many more years can they use that old, tired, worn out, curled card?

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  2. Just Gene says:

    Bull,
    Did you see the discussion between Mr. Bill and Geraldo on racism because of optics? That’s a nice new rational, Here’s the letter I sent to Mr. Bill
    Geraldo was correct when he said there was subtle racism because of optics. I believe the racism is so rampant that neither you or I will live long enough to ever see a black President of the United States.

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    • bullright says:

      J Gene, LOL
      Yea, Geraldo with the optics. Got to love that one, Mr. Optics Rivera. He never found anything in that tomb either, but that never stopped him.

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      • pepperhawk says:

        LOL, that’s too funny Bull, Geraldo never finding anything in that tomb. Boy what a dreadful fiasco that was.

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        • bullright says:

          Pepp, Ha ha. Geraldo makes the perfect poster boy for Liberals.

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          • pepperhawk says:

            Bull,
            You got that one right. Just mention Latinos and he goes into a hissy fit of liberalism. Him I can hardly stand to watch and the Hawk runs out of the room away from the TV because he’d like to beat the crap outta Geraldo. Don’t we sound like a nice place here? All this violent thinking? Ah, ha I am a radical Christian and I nearly forgot how vicious we are.

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  3. pepperhawk says:

    I saw that poll you talk about Bull. It said that among people ages 18 to something that 38% claimed no religion or faith. Among the older age group the percentage was very high.

    I think the media are simply doing what they do best, skewing things to make it look like we are no longer a Christian nation. And of course, our most beloved Deviant told Cairo we are NOT a Christian nation. I’d like to know where he gets his information. What I believe is they just make it up, pull numbers out of the air and post them as if they were real.

    I’m sick of the attack on Christians. I saw some Muslim testify before Congress that “radical Christianity” needs to be inspected. “Radical Christians” indeed! What a crock. I can’t recall the last time a bunch of Christians flew airplanes into buildings for bloody sake.

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    • bullright says:

      Pepp: yea, so right that is an important point I left out. My bad! Thanks. I think it was Under 30 or something? Funny the same age group Obama credits for his election. 🙂 Ha ha how lucky for The One, he can just make up what he likes and no one will question him.

      Yea, if it weren’t such a standard thing it might not be so bad. Its a steady pattern. Yet Christians have an agenda?—or so they say and warn everyone. Every year they trot out some study. Maybe the One can work it into his campaign. They’ve already taken potshots at Romney’s faith. But president “faith in me” skates by on what he says. Even people outside US see him with a jaundiced eye. Yet he has a hostility to Bible-thumping Christians, and a little fear, doesn’t he? And those gun clingers.

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      • pepperhawk says:

        Bull you sure hit the nail on the head about the ONE. I guess the younger people believe he’s God since he pretends to be one, the ruler of the entire world, not just America.
        Speaking of jaundiced eye, did you see Putin and the One together? Putin looked like he was trying not to vomit while the One was preaching. I told the Hawk Putin looked like he could have gotten up from that chair and slammed little skinny boy around. It was just awesome to watch the body language.

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        • bullright says:

          Pepp: Yea that was some serious body language. LOL. I’m sort of glad I never expect anything from this POS, at least I’m not disappointed. He’s the biggest nothing that people have cheered for. I think foreigners have it right; they look at us and say what’s wrong with us, not Obama, for electing him? We knew what he was then. It is the people’s fault. And I thought Clinton was a real low point, with Chinese technology, missiles and Korea and all. We are in new waters. This guy already gave them at least 3 big win falls, that we know of, and people cheer him on.

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    • bullright says:

      Pepp:
      Yea, forgot those threatening Christians, I will always keep my eye on them around airports and such. Can’t be too careful. Never know when they’re packing a Bible too.

      I wanted to email Lemon to tell him “there’s a word for when Christians disappear, its called the rapture.”

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      • pepperhawk says:

        The Deviant seems to be quite fearful of Christians which is amazing since he sat in that crazy Rev. Wright’s church and heard the nastiest stuff. Oh, but he doesn’t recall any of that. I forgot.

        Bible and gun clingers are now in Post Offices on the Most Wanted list. Yeah, those people are so deadly you better watch out for a Bible shooting at those there airports.

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        • bullright says:

          Pepp: LMAO Where’s Dave when you need him. LOL His selective memory is all over the place. He’s insulted everything traditional about this country. What’s left?

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  4. clyde says:

    CNN is about as believeable on ANYTHING,especially a poll THEY commissioned,as believeing the moon is made of green cheese. Racism will never die,because the loony left will not allow it.

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    • bullright says:

      Clyde: its a sad statement for what passes for press. Plus we only want to suppress the vote, they must keep the narrative alive. But guys with billy clubs at the polls they can ignore.

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  5. pepperhawk says:

    Clyde is right, the alphabet soups keep that race card going, never gonna let go of it I guess. It must work for them somehow.

    True Bull, black panthers yelling out “I hate you crackers, I’m gonna kill all yer babies” is no threat apparently. A sacred law they broke, intimidation at the polls, but they get let off the hook. Wow, no partisan politics there to see. Just move on by, you saw nothing, you heard nothing. You are a nut case who clings to your bibles and guns anyway. LOL! The world is upside down and how in the hell do we get it righted.

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    • bullright says:

      Pepp: yea you know it makes some of us feal like idealists for just wanting fairness and some credibility from the sysstem and from those we pull a lever for. But can’t we have any of that? Well, like I said, does that make us pesky idealists? You are right. I don’t know if we can right it, but I’ll keep believing in trying. I wish I’d see more encouragement(progress is already hijacked) about the younger gens. We aren’t maintanence free. As long as we are all “nut jobs” I don’t sense much is changing very fast. We have the Marxists dug in througout and its going to take some rooting out. I won’t except the “new normal” as they like to call it- which is the old abnormal. But their “programing” goes on around us.

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      • pepperhawk says:

        Bull and there is the problem. The whole government is infested with Marxists and Eco-freaks. The Hawk wants to blow them all outta this country. I’d like to also, but then that’s my christian radicalism showing.

        I don’t want to “get used to the new normal” either. And I don’t think we are idealists for wanting our Republic back the way it should be. We are patriots who believe in God and our rights given to us from God. I guess it’s pretty hard for liberal commies to see it our way because they don’t believe in God. Actually I don’t know wth they do believe in except wanting us all to be slaves to the government.

        I guess that’s why I’ve taken such a liking to westerns and cowboy movies. The good guys always win.

        I figure we are the good guys. I also see no meeting of minds here. It just can’t happen when you have two diametrically opposed views on how our country should be.

        And for libs, negotiating just means “giving into them and what they want”. When do we get what we want. It’s not that much. We just want America back to the way it was.

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        • bullright says:

          Pepp: well said. We just have to win. Even they don’t seem all that happy with it either, having put us in this mess. Every step they take makes it that much harder for us.

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