No lack of politiking from the pulpits – 2

Can’t get no, can’t get no… satisfaction … no, no, no. (Part 2

[Read part 1 first for context]

Part 2– the previous post and this update was written some time ago. The last part at the end is new.

Update. The above was written a little while back but the story carries on.

Now we have president Obama going to the Prayer Breakfast – a place he was not fond of going in the past – to lecture to Christians that his policies are a matter of his faith and that Christians should embrace them, and him, because they are fulfilling Christ’s instructions to us. The church is supposed to enthusiastically embrace him and his policies based on that premise. Since when did we render the church to Caesar? Some have, and others are ambivalent about it.

He tells us his socialistic policies are just what the church orders, so what is the problem? At the very same time he is presenting his case that he and his administration is on exactly the same page as the Christian church, he is also telling Catholics that their faith and conscience should divert to the state. Again, render the church to Caesar. We are not supposed to see a problem with this. However, the Catholics who willingly embraced ObamaCare and went along, despite the concerns and warnings, are finally declaring their grievances. But this was one group that even Obama touted as supporting his plans while it was being passed. Now they have found their voice of dissent. Now Obama wants to use Christianity and the church to make his case for and defend, his policies.

Flash Forward

For a counter argument, look no further than a group of Catholics who call themselves “Catholics for Choice”. But do not simply mistake them for a rogue and disgruntled group. They are continually raised up on a pedestal for their views that poke conservatives, and evangelical conservatives, in the eye. There are several groups like that doing pretty much the same thing; as if the secular Marxist left really needs their assist. Though it is kind of a self-serving, possibly selfish, platform they occupy. I think it has less to do with their faith or “freedom of religion” than it does their appeasement of the left. (for various other reasons)

I’ll give one sampling of an article C4C had:
(for illustrative and educational purposes — you can find the link)

Jacques Berlinerblau blames the secularism movement for lack of effective leadership. But the political parties share blame here too. The GOP for its pact with the religious right, which makes it beholden to its refusal to adapt or compromise and unable to attract any other voters [read minorities, non-whites] as a result.

The Democrats, for lack of imagination in responding to the GOP’s supposed dominance over “religious” voters and fear of talking about church-state separation. The Democrats for buying the claim that voters want to hear about politicians’ religiosity, that voters want to hear about how faith informs policy, and that voters want politicians to listen to religious “leaders” (i.e., those with access and power) and adapt policies to suit them, even if it harms other citizens. (Case in point, the contraception coverage requirement.) But what happens when, as in the case of the bishops, their constituents disagree with the religious leaders who have lobbyists, and access to the White House and Congress?

Notice the lopsided criticism they use, while attempting to sound objective and fair. How they refer only sparingly to Dems that they haven’t gone far enough down the secular humanist path to utopia. But, on the contrary, that scathing resentment they show for the conservative right and evangelical right-wingers.

If you really listen today to what emanates from the pulpits, its much more about the social justice or the left’s utopia, than it is about what cones from the wisdom of the Bible. And Obama’s base is covered with those like Rev. Jim Wallis of Sojourners who tow the social left line.

Fox News reported: (one pastor who Obama called a spiritual adviser)

Obama: “When I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that ‘Don’t Ask Don’t Tell’ is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point, I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” President Obama told ABC News.

[Pastor] Hunter says he told the president he disagreed with his interpretation of what the Bible says about marriage. Hunter says the president reassured him he would protect the religious freedom of churches who oppose gay marriage.

[Protect it like he did with ObamaCare?]

Scratch another one off Obama’s Christmas card list. But of course, according to those like the C for C, the problem is those disagreeable dissenters, who want to push their religious views on others. Say nothing of the arrogance in shoving their agenda down the throats of conservatives and Christians alike.

Here is a classic example.
Rev Jim Wallis of Sojourners Magazine was confronted about his funding ties to George Soros. He promptly denied it. Though he could not deny the facts to the contrary.

“Correcting his initial comments denying the charge, Rev. Jim Wallis of the left-leaning Christian group Sojourners has acknowledged that his organization received grants from the Open Society Institute (OSI). Funded by the financial speculator George Soros, the OSI is a backer of many political causes including legal abortion and homosexual activism.

Marvin Olasky, a writer with the evangelical publication WORLD Magazine, had reported that Sojourners, an inter-denominational Christian organization which backs left-leaning political issues, received several hundred thousand dollars from Soros’ OSI.

In an interview with Timothy Dalrymple of the Patheos website, Wallis denied that claim. He compared Olasky to radio and television show host Glenn Beck who in Wallis’ view “lies for a living.”

“No, we don’t receive our money from Soros … Our books are totally open, always have been. Our money comes from Christians who support us and who read Sojourners. That’s where it comes from.”

Read more:

Occupations R us

Sojourners CEO, the Rev. Jim Wallis, on #OccupyWallStreet from cathleen falsani on Vimeo.

Their message is render your faith to government; render the Church to Caesar.

3 comments on “No lack of politiking from the pulpits – 2

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  2. drrik says:

    It’s almost the same except for the part where the church pulls out guns if you choose not to follow them.



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