I’m with you on this no-brainer Bull! This comes down to nothing more than both shit head parties vying for votes. Too many horses are already out, we want to feed and house them and still LEAVE the f*cking gate open. I can’t figure out who are the biggest chumps…the elected politicians or the elector’s??
Bull, details, details, growing nose syndrome, bums and those that are eaten up with a terminal case of the dumb ass. None of this shit really matters in the long run. The loyal Hitler followers do any and everything to make their savior look good and cover his ass during any f*cking mess. At this point; I believe we the “not bums or dumb asses” are so overwhelmed by those that are we are fighting an uphill battle the size of Mount Everest.
I’ll shit my paints Bull, if Hitlery is not the next King whenever our current Ayatollah decides to step down. The Traitor Party has spent the last 100 years setting the stage for a take over and the Repukes are so far behind the eight ball that I don’t even think they can see the pool table.
Dave, I’d have to agree on Hill’s potential. Not to forget they have the whole shadow government anyway(that benefited Barry just fine) which she helped build.
They most likely would clean off the rust and other debris built up over time before brazing a new or replacement connection. Sometimes one has to smell feces or hold their nose in order to fix a septic tank. But, I agree, as we are deciding how to handle the problems already in the system, we can and should either work on building a border buffer, or moving to E-Verify as a proof of eligibility for working in the United States and temporary work Visas; the combination of which puts the “guest workers” on the official tax roles and excludes those in the shadows from the ability to work and to receive any federal benefit whatsoever.
Personally, I’d rather spend the billions that would go to the fence et.al on other things and use these administrative systems to discourage migration without an official guest worker status. My only reservation is that I doubt the government would be as harsh with those businesses that hire without both E-Verify and a guest worker certificate as it would on any other criminal and actually require jail time for offenders as well as “fines”.
Thanks Rick,. One of my problems with the e-verify is turning employers into de facto enforcement agents. (when gubmint wouldn’t do the job before) Just smacks of something, when everybody is scrutinized to deal with a problem government allowed and created.
It also bothers me, but not as much as spending multiple billions of dollars on an integrated high tech system that is only partly effective. We all have a duty to report people who commit crimes; E-Verify is no more than a formal mechanism that reminds employers of that responsibility and that failure to live up to such a responsibility in good faith is also a crime. I don’t think anyone expects businesses to be 100% accurate, but by requiring the two documents, just as the law now requires an I-9 or other documents to be filed, I think a reasonable result could be expected and the burden minimal.
I guess that’s all right. Always seems to be the lesser of the two evils choice, doesn’t it? Inevitably we’ll have it, which from the sounds of it is almost ready. As long as they don’t take it to the stratospheres (read police state) like everything else. I’ve earned my skepticism 🙂
I hear ya, pal. If they get too much more intrusive, we may be celebrating something more destructive than 150 years since the battle at Gettysburg in the fight to regain small government and greater say in how our government operates. I’m not convinced such a condition is avoidable in the future as public education come to resemble more of an assembly line for the production of cretins than it does as a path to higher education.
Agreed,Rick, reminds me an interview with Hitler pre-rise where he was asked about private property and he told the reporter he did not want to take away private property, just that everyone understand they are an agent of the state. That seems to spell out our situation. Your rights and property are at the state’s discretion.
All this stuff seems to leave a data trail, convenient for government.(they have most of it now) It reminds you how much data they have on folks now. And with Barry looking for any convenient “uses” for that data, Obama’s data “initiative”, it makes me think how it all heads in the same direction. Combine medical and health records, affiliations and all, there’s little they don’t have on us. And who shall have access to it? Ironically, all this from a guy we know little about.
Power changes as Presidents change. The one constant is “we, the people”. If government gets so out of control, then, we only have ourselves to blame. President Obama is carrying on a program begun by President Bush and in both instances, we aided and abetted then by preferring a flicker of safety from out non native enemies all the while assuming those in power were our friends, as we chose to quarrel among each other, ignore the threats that came before us and capitulated to the idea that “you have to pass a bill to know what’s in a bill”, because the price of getting and staying informed is like the New York properties where “the rent is too damn high”. 🙂
Don’t get me wrong, Bull. I love this article precisely because it is so thought provoking and opens many doors to many more questions and important discussions or considerations. As always, I thank you for your great work.
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Leave it to the repubs to recommend just that. Check out my post about Schumer at lunchtime tomorrow. Fits right in.
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Yep and I guess they figured everyone would jump on board the amnesty train — i.e. “amnesty central”– just because they say so.
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I’m with you on this no-brainer Bull! This comes down to nothing more than both shit head parties vying for votes. Too many horses are already out, we want to feed and house them and still LEAVE the f*cking gate open. I can’t figure out who are the biggest chumps…the elected politicians or the elector’s??
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Dave, That is the big question, we do have an epidemic of stupid going around.
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Bull, details, details, growing nose syndrome, bums and those that are eaten up with a terminal case of the dumb ass. None of this shit really matters in the long run. The loyal Hitler followers do any and everything to make their savior look good and cover his ass during any f*cking mess. At this point; I believe we the “not bums or dumb asses” are so overwhelmed by those that are we are fighting an uphill battle the size of Mount Everest.
I’ll shit my paints Bull, if Hitlery is not the next King whenever our current Ayatollah decides to step down. The Traitor Party has spent the last 100 years setting the stage for a take over and the Repukes are so far behind the eight ball that I don’t even think they can see the pool table.
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Dave, I’d have to agree on Hill’s potential. Not to forget they have the whole shadow government anyway(that benefited Barry just fine) which she helped build.
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They most likely would clean off the rust and other debris built up over time before brazing a new or replacement connection. Sometimes one has to smell feces or hold their nose in order to fix a septic tank. But, I agree, as we are deciding how to handle the problems already in the system, we can and should either work on building a border buffer, or moving to E-Verify as a proof of eligibility for working in the United States and temporary work Visas; the combination of which puts the “guest workers” on the official tax roles and excludes those in the shadows from the ability to work and to receive any federal benefit whatsoever.
Personally, I’d rather spend the billions that would go to the fence et.al on other things and use these administrative systems to discourage migration without an official guest worker status. My only reservation is that I doubt the government would be as harsh with those businesses that hire without both E-Verify and a guest worker certificate as it would on any other criminal and actually require jail time for offenders as well as “fines”.
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Thanks Rick,. One of my problems with the e-verify is turning employers into de facto enforcement agents. (when gubmint wouldn’t do the job before) Just smacks of something, when everybody is scrutinized to deal with a problem government allowed and created.
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It also bothers me, but not as much as spending multiple billions of dollars on an integrated high tech system that is only partly effective. We all have a duty to report people who commit crimes; E-Verify is no more than a formal mechanism that reminds employers of that responsibility and that failure to live up to such a responsibility in good faith is also a crime. I don’t think anyone expects businesses to be 100% accurate, but by requiring the two documents, just as the law now requires an I-9 or other documents to be filed, I think a reasonable result could be expected and the burden minimal.
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I guess that’s all right. Always seems to be the lesser of the two evils choice, doesn’t it? Inevitably we’ll have it, which from the sounds of it is almost ready. As long as they don’t take it to the stratospheres (read police state) like everything else. I’ve earned my skepticism 🙂
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I hear ya, pal. If they get too much more intrusive, we may be celebrating something more destructive than 150 years since the battle at Gettysburg in the fight to regain small government and greater say in how our government operates. I’m not convinced such a condition is avoidable in the future as public education come to resemble more of an assembly line for the production of cretins than it does as a path to higher education.
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Agreed,Rick, reminds me an interview with Hitler pre-rise where he was asked about private property and he told the reporter he did not want to take away private property, just that everyone understand they are an agent of the state. That seems to spell out our situation. Your rights and property are at the state’s discretion.
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All this stuff seems to leave a data trail, convenient for government.(they have most of it now) It reminds you how much data they have on folks now. And with Barry looking for any convenient “uses” for that data, Obama’s data “initiative”, it makes me think how it all heads in the same direction. Combine medical and health records, affiliations and all, there’s little they don’t have on us. And who shall have access to it? Ironically, all this from a guy we know little about.
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Power changes as Presidents change. The one constant is “we, the people”. If government gets so out of control, then, we only have ourselves to blame. President Obama is carrying on a program begun by President Bush and in both instances, we aided and abetted then by preferring a flicker of safety from out non native enemies all the while assuming those in power were our friends, as we chose to quarrel among each other, ignore the threats that came before us and capitulated to the idea that “you have to pass a bill to know what’s in a bill”, because the price of getting and staying informed is like the New York properties where “the rent is too damn high”. 🙂
Don’t get me wrong, Bull. I love this article precisely because it is so thought provoking and opens many doors to many more questions and important discussions or considerations. As always, I thank you for your great work.
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