More demonstrations grip Egypt and with it is more violence. Much of it by Muslim Brotherhood protesting – an odd use of the term for what they do – and some by government trying to put down the revolt.
Something is missing in connecting the dots. At the time of violence and unrest, Christian churches are being attacked. Churches were burned across Egypt.
Egypt has some explaining to do
“‘Horrible’: Christian churches throughout Egypt stormed, torched”
By Sarah Sirgany and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN – Thu August 15, 2013
Kafr Hakim, Egypt (CNN) — For 67 years, the Virgin Mary Church has been a peaceful refuge for Shenouda El Sayeh, much like the Giza province village of Hafr Hakim where it rests and where he has lived all those years.
But, as he swept its floors on Thursday, it was painfully obvious things had changed.
The night before, a mob — chanting against Coptic Christians such as El Sayeh and calling for Egypt to become an “Islamic state” — had torched and looted the Virgin Mary Church.
“I didn’t expect this to happen,” El Sayeh said.
He’s not alone. Christians all around Egypt are cleaning up in the aftermath of a spate of attacks, which not coincidentally came on the county’s deadliest day since the 2011 revolution that overthrew longtime President Hosni Mubarak. [/..]
More http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/world/meast/egypt-church-attacks/
Now what does not make sense is the Muslim Brotherhood are in protest against the government and military. So they go burn Christian churches. Muslim Brotherhood is in revolution and vowing to fight till death. So the natural thing to do is go light churches on fire and terrorize Christians?
What is their rationale? This just proves the way it is with Islamist Muslims. So in a revolution for control of the country, the immediate reaction is to burn Christians and churches out. No, not all Muslims but it doesn’t have to be all.
Of course, this would make perfect sense only to the Muslims. They are also burning Christian books and bookstores. Where is the logic? Apparently logic is not required. The only explanation is they are Muslims and Islamists. This is the Muslim Brotherhood called moderate by US officials. So this is moderation?
**Here is a compiling list of Christians and churches etc. attacked just since August 14th.
But this is not a new problem
According to our administration, there are moderate elements in Hezbollah. So Obama and his administration are dedicated to working with those moderate elements in a terrorist organization. Brennan publicly expressed that position over a year ago. Then Clapper.
The Jerusalem Post reported last July:
If there are “moderate elements,” in Hezbollah, from the perspective of the Obama administration, Hezbollah’s Sunni jihadist counterpart – the Muslim Brotherhood – is downright friendly.
On February 10, 2011, Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper made this position clear in testimony before the House Select Committee on Intelligence. Clapper’s testimony was given the day before then Egyptian president and longtime US ally Hosni Mubarak was forced to resign from office. Mubarak’s coerced resignation was owed largely to the Obama administration’s decision to end US support for his regime and openly demand his immediate abdication of power. As Israel warned, Mubarak’s ouster paved the way for the Muslim Brotherhood’s ascendance to power in Egypt.
In his testimony Clapper said, “The term ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ is an umbrella term for a variety of movements. In the case of Egypt, a very heterogeneous group, largely secular which has eschewed violence and has decried al-Qaida as a perversion of Islam. They have pursued social ends, betterment of the political order in Egypt, etc.”
And twelve months later, this friendly, largely secular, and workable heterogeneous organization of Muslim Brotherhood is burning out Christian churches, bookstores, and interests. I’m just having a Clapper moment. My Casablanca face says “I’m shocked”.
Sohag — St. George Church
If a person is muslim,christian or ancestral worshiper may that person not be terroried by anyone,may they not be bloodshed or their property be burnt,GOD the creator of heaven and earth, the maker of mankind knows who is right and who is following the true life worship that pleases him.JEhovah I the judge of all he will choose for himself not anyone anywhere I the world to force people to come by violent force to come in their worship practice.may those who terrorise other people anywhere in the world receive judgement of God in the name of Jesus Christ.
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Thanks Kego, God Bless.
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The base of democracy is tolerance. We tolerate, yet disagree, with beliefs and ideas that are different than our own from time to time. We pull together to protect each other’s rights and freedoms. How then, how can a people so intolerant of a disagreeing opinion, belief or action be given the gift of democracy? The Muslim Brotherhood and right wing muslims do not respect anyone that’s different from themselves. How can they be expected to respect or support democracy? You might as well teach fish to walk! How can anyone teach such an intolerant and violent people to live peacefully?
Also, what purpose does burning Christian churches prove? In Africa, Doctors without borders have to pull out because of the violence. Does not the Koran teach that one is suppose to help the sick, poor and needy? We living in democracy may not be perfect, but at least we try to help and understand other people. We try to live up to our Christian beliefs. That’s more than I can say about the majority of Muslims in this world.
God hears us all. Do you think He likes what He hears?
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Thanks, Kaytech,.It is important. God Bless
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There seems to be an unlimited amount of hate emanating from the so-called “religion of peace”.
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Rick, you said it, “unlimited” is the operative word.
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Lets see what the JACKASS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WILL SAY
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AJ: yea I can’t wait. Thanks.
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W/o going into detail, I had a distant relative who was arrested and jailed for proselytizing. It was a harrowing time for everyone. He was innocent of the charge. He is a Christian and was trying to meet needs. Scary to say the least. Thanx for posting this, Bullright. Its’ a very important story and this should be shouted from the rooftops by all the media in this country. Yea, fat chance, eh?
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Exactly, Mrs AL. it should be. It was a CNN online story. It is hard to dismiss something like this. But we’ll see. Hey I’ll be satisfied if they just report it, they don’t have to explain it. (as if you can) But everyone knows (or should know) the reason for this.
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So the rioting going on in Egypt, by Obama’s handpicked boys, the MB, are looting shooting and burning, what does asshat do? Goes golfing, of course. I see the Egyptians are taking NO calls from Dilbert,or his hacks. Idiots, anyway. Good post,Bull.
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Right Clyde, he’ll think up a
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Well hell Bull, can you believe Egypt is in turmoil? Surely not after O’Bastard has spent so much of our money to fix all their problems. What do they have to bitch about now? Maybe the same thing they’ve been bitching about for over 5000 years??
Where in the hell is that asteroid Clyde keeps asking for???
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Dave,
Egypt in turmoil is front page ‘news’, only in Egypt. When you work that hard to create chaos, its not hard to get the credit when succeeding. The MB is busy blaming anyone else.
They are exercising their freedom to destroy the country. It won’t even be a passing tourist stop when they’re through. Top it off by killing journalists, that attracts people every time, doesn’t it?
Where oh where??? As I said before, I think they slipped into a black hole and the asteroid just can’t find them.
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Bull,
Great post. This needs to be heard everywhere and maybe that is what’s happening as we spoke through email.
I know the King came out from Maaartha’s Vineyaaard to speak for about 6 min. on this, but I don’t think he condemned the MB much. He’s trying to be neutral. Ha, after he was the one who pushed the MB to take over in Egypt. He should be ashamed, but has none.
He barely mentioned the Christian churches being burned. And anyway, the Egyptians don’t want to hear from him anyway. They are ticked off royally at him. LOL!
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Pepp, many thanks. Hopefully they cannot quiet the truth. The list of churches evolves. To hear the muzzie-bro-hoods in Egypt, there is some principle involved. That’s a laugh, it is what it always is about.
Well, to disturb his heinous highness on Va-K is something. He never paid even that
muchlittle attention to Benghazi. No, he won’t condemn anything, unless its our people here that don’t trust him.Maybe this time he managed to tick off and alienate all parties at once? He sure has no answers anyway. They won’t even call it a coup. They ‘refuse to make a determination on that matter.’ Funny how he makes a determination about us everyday — against us.
It must have made him feel very King-like to address the situation from the comfort of Martha’s Vineyard, between tees.
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You can read the translated version of what MB said about church attacks in English here:
http://mbinenglish.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/fjp-helwan-facebook-page-on-church-attacks/
NOTE: This is not run by MB — they only translate it from their FB pages.
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Statement excerpt from the Coptic Orthodox Church in UK
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Coptic — North America:
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A Catholic school and orphanage were also attacked
And
http://www.persecution.org/category/countries/africa/egypt/
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[…] a difference a year makes, or not. Last year around August 15th we were watching churches across Egypt being being burned. We saw the persecution not only from terrorist groups but from the whole Muslim Brotherhood […]
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[…] a difference a year makes, or not. Last year around August 15th we were watching churches across Egypt being burned. We saw the persecution not only from terrorist groups but from the whole Muslim Brotherhood […]
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