War Hero Status: hands off McCain

Last night, again, CNN trotted out their venom for this president. Not presidents in general, just this president in particular. The subject, of course, was John McCain. The media never seems to tire of defending McCain. It was over comments Trump made.

@realDonaldTrump

Spreading the fake and totally discredited Dossier “is unfortunately a very dark stain against John McCain.” Ken Starr, Former Independent Counsel. He had far worse “stains” than this, including thumbs down on repeal and replace after years of campaigning to repeal and replace!
4:46 PM – 16 Mar 2019

@MeghanMcCain

Meghan McCain Retweeted Donald J. Trump

“No one will ever love you the way they loved my father…. I wish I had been given more Saturday’s with him. Maybe spend yours with your family instead of on twitter obsessing over mine?”
5:28 PM – 16 Mar 2019

In this episode of this long running series, Craig Shields opined that whenever people feel compelled to mention the Nazis or slavery in a conversation, they should stop right there. Don’t do it, he said, it will not go well. (never stopped Democrats from mentioning it)

To that firmly made point, Don Lemon chimed in with a remark adding war heroes to it, meaning like McCain. Just don’t do it, Don repeated. April Ryan was sitting there nodding in agreement to Lemon, rolling her eyes a few times shrugging as to why anyone should try to criticize or talk about McCain. Got the message.

But that brings up the point. We cannot mention John McCain in less than glowing terms. He is a war hero, after all, Lemon kept saying. So he was, and that makes him supposedly off limits to any criticism of him or his record.

Shields already said he had major disagreements with McCain because of the McCain-Fiengold Bill on campaign finance reform that attacked free speech. To the suggestion of disagreement, April Ryan rolled her eyes and shook her head back and forth. Nope, apparently one cannot even disagree on policy. No place for that.

Then Don Lemon added like your mother always told you, “don’t speak ill of the dead.” Now that is two reasons you cannot criticize McCain. First, he is a war hero and second, he is now dead. Yep that definitely puts him off the table. Bite your tongue.

So that sets up the scenario, those are the rules! But think about that a minute. Are we not now a generation that is taking issue with all kinds of people for what they did, especially even if they are also war heroes? Yes, we are. We have seen a string of it, tearing down statues and taking names off buildings all because they contributed to an intolerable policy. That means their war record status as a hero is post-facto expunged now.

I thought, you don’t have to look very far. A few examples popped into my head of Robert E Lee, Andrew Jackson and Benedict Arnold. Do they have something in common? (you could pick others too) They were heroes in their own right. Even Benedict Arnold had hero status before going to West Point and then selling out to become a traitor. He’s probably the most stellar example. But we do criticize him. I mean his name is forever smeared as a traitor. Yet he was a formidable soldier who Washington commended.

The point is all these are thoroughly critiqued today as villains of some type. But they were heroes too. Any statues of them would be removed. Whatever good they may have done is now undone by what we know about their actions or tangential support for policies. It doesn’t bother these McCain defenders one bit to bash or condemn those one-time heroes. In fact, it is good to make people aware of their wrongs and associated sins.

Look, I know no one is perfect. That is not my point. Actually, we are all flawed people. We may do great things and still have bad in our lifetime. These days though it is permissible to throw the man’s whole legacy out because of a stain. They are erasing our history the same way. But they will not find anyone perfect. We had founders that owned slaves. Does that blot them out of history? Should we sanitize history with only approved people?

They take the Jefferson Davis statue down and others. All that is good to these people; they endorse more of that cleansing. Except leave John McCain alone. “Leave him alone!”

There is another thing about McCain. Sure there is lots to criticize there. Lucky he never did become president because we know how they are treated — from Nixon to Obama. What about that? They were all still presidents. Yet they are routinely criticized all the time. (especially Republicans) They say but this man, McCain, must be exempt from any criticism. Is that fair? If he would have become president, he would have had criticism from both sides picking on his legacy, much worse than this.

I am getting very sick of how every time someone criticizes McCain, out come his preening guards calling you disrespectful, to remind everyone he is a war hero – End! No one can say a negative word about him. Trump does not follow their special McCain exempt rule.

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Dear Meghan McCain

“Hush, little one don’t you cry”…….as the song goes. Oh, never mind. Grudge much?

Apparently you now feel you have to pick up the battle of bitter John McCain against Trump. One comment Trump made regarding John McCain is all this whole thing is about since it is the only thing he did to McCain, your father, besides getting elected.

Meghan McCain said in eulogizing her father:

“The America of John McCain is generous and welcoming and bold. She is resourceful and confident and secure. She meets her responsibilities, She speaks quietly because she is strong. America does not boast because she has no need to. The America of John McCain has no need to be great again because America was always great.”

“We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness. The real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly, nor the opportunistic appropriation of those who lived lives of comfort and privilege.”

“We live in an era where we knock down old American heroes for all their imperfections, when no leader wants to admit to fault. You were an exception, and you gave us an ideal to strive for. Look, I know you can see this gathering here in this cathedral. The nation is here to remember you.”

I understand you want to mourn your father, but why do you have to attack Trump to do it — because you think it is popular? Would you attack Obama for “change you can believe in?” Any wonder some people interpret it as a eulogy for the Republican Party?

Well, if you want to count the comments of blaming him for his vote to save Obamacare, not lost on the Democrat left, then there is that too. But McCain did vote that way, after running and promising that he would lead the charge to abolishing Obamacare. Which brings us to an interesting point in this dustup. (End first person)

Was he really promising to get rid of Obamacare, or was he promising instead just to lead the charge in the Senate? See, that matters if he was not really planning on ending Obamacare but only wanted to lead the effort. In that case, he would run and lead it which would also mean killing the effort when push came to shove. Thereby making himself mister popularity with the left, is that what he had in mind? Do you see what I mean?

And then there were all those efforts toward getting answers and information about MIA’s and POW’s Remember those, where John McCain rushed in to sort of lead the parade and then the effort ended up dying? Was he ever interested in settling the matter or just burying the efforts by leading it? Questions many of us have about McCain’s agenda.

However, this telling sign from Megyn McCain sort of unravels it. So much animus. So much bitterness. The same type of bitterness and lack of concern he seemed to have for those aggrieved family members of Vietnam Vets. Answers they don’t have, questions that remain. John was no real help for them. But those efforts died off after he got involved. Better not to know? What did he actually care about? Is criticism of McCain taboo?

Now Meghan lashes out at the funeral as if it were Trump’s fault McCain died. Blame Trump for what: starting a movement, trying to get answers; trying to change the way the Washington Swamp worked; trying to fight corruption? Blame Trump for using a slogan that even Bill Clinton used. Blame Trump for speaking up for so many Americans, who went to the polls to elect him president. So blame voters. Was that the problem, he was elected? Or was it that he was sticking up for the forgotten, working man who was disenchanted and disenfranchised?

There were plenty of people that felt their voice was not heard. In her rant attack on Trump, to cheers of applause, she was lashing out at the voters who elected him, too. Blame the masses. Don’t blame McCain for anything though he has been in office for over 35 years. Almost as a metaphor to forgotten voters: he was elected and then diagnosed not long after his election yet would not cede his seat, but instead hoarded it to his bitter end so they could not go to the polls to elect a new Senator in November.

In the beginning of May he made a statement that he may well not be around in the spring, of 2019, when the end of May was the deadline to have his seat included in the election. He could have continued his Senate career, as the people had their election campaign. (like he did) He would still have his funeral plans made the same way. He would still have the marketing of his book. And he still would not have voted in major issues for months. In fact, as we see, he would have died while that was all taking place, before the election ever came. It would have been no skin off of McCain or his legacy.

But it was skin off the voters. Did he care? No, it seems not. He had his own plans and concerns, which did not involve the people who went and voted for him yet again in 2016. Was he even honest with the voters in that election?

Now that we are in this situation, brought on by McCain, if anyone should have a problem it is the people. They were slighted. And the Governor of Arizona will have to pick a successor to McCain, as he wanted him to do. McCain wanted him to pick a McCain-type person. That is no secret. What is a McCain-type person? Likely someone from his inner circle. Forgive many of us for asking if that person will be his wife, Cindy McCain. Yes, I heard a few denials but I think it will be Cindy McCain? (I could be wrong) It gives someone the pathway into the office setting it up for the 2020 election though.

This all makes me ask and wonder, just how much power does a sitting US Senator have, even to pick his successor? Does he get to overrule the people who voted for him? Does he have a veto over the will of the people? All these questions could force you to conclude yes, he does, when it comes to McCain. Seems that his will is the only one that mattered.

I’m sorry for your grief, pain and bitterness, Meghan. Maybe one day you can let at least one of them go?

Seems the people should have more complaints than John McCain, or his family. Meghan said her father’s response to her asking what he wanted in a eulogy was: “Show them how tough you are.” So was the point to show people how tough she is? What is the purpose? Tough toward Trump, and the voters? Over what? But she did make the bitter point clear.

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Ode to McCain

First of all, my compassion and prayers to John McCain and his family for real life experiences he and all are going through. Let me get that out of the way. Sigh.

The recent comments by a White House staffer, Kelly Stadler, said in a staff meeting about McCain — “he is dying anyway” — might be unfortunate, wrong or some degree of tacky. But then she did apologize by calling Meghan McCain. That should do it, no? No, it didn’t.

Meghan McCain went on The View the next day and laces into her. She said:

“”The thing that surprises me most is … I don’t understand what kind of environment you’re working in when that would be acceptable and you can come to work the next day and still have a job.” That’s all I have to say about that, she said.

 

Well, back last year, McCain delivered a scathing “indictment” as it was called by media to a grand audience, while receiving a Liberty Medal award.

“[Lose] the obligations of international leadership, and the duty to remain the last best hope of earth for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems.”

Trump said, after McCain’s remarks back then that:

“Yeah well, I hear it. And people have to be careful because at some point I fight back. I’m being very nice. I’m being very, very nice. But at some point I fight back, and it won’t be pretty,” he told the Chris Plante Show.

Then the View chastised Trump for his measured restraint, by scolding him:

Whoopi Goldberg: “Mr….all I can say is ‘have you no shame, have you no shame, have you no shame?’ Damn!”

During Whoopi’s remarks Meghan McCain was heard saying “no” in agreement. It takes a lot to put the View in agreement with Meghan on anything. Whooppi went on to say “you tweet about the NFL, man, what are you doing? You bonehead!” Meghan chimed in about Trump’s comments:

“Oh my gosh. Listen, I was here yesterday with you guys when this story brake and I hate, I hate this fighting between my father and President Trump because when we were talking about service and things like that, I just find it SO deeply sacred. And this is highly politicized.

My father and President Trump have DEEP disagreements on the future of America, DEEP disagreements on the role of America globally, about the role of the Republican Party… and whom should be leading it. And my father, God love him, at 81 years old fighting brain cancer, is still out there having something to say…and I’m so proud.

There is a complete lack of courage in DC right now on all sides, all sides, all the way around, the lack of courage to go up and stand for what you believe in and for me, I….”

Of course the rest of the View jumped in on that to say it is not Democrats who lack courage, and that they aren’t in control of power.

 

Meghan likes to swim in it when it suits her and her family. However, the lack of courage is what Trump is breaking through. How many people are grateful that he stands up to the same old same old, and all his supporters who found their voice through him?

Up to the current comment at some staff meeting within the White House.

Immediately, now, they are calling for Kelly Stadler to be fired and MSM is stirring the bonfire on The View and in Meghan McCain’s response. “It’s offensive, it’s hurtful,” says Ana Navarro. (self-righteous talking head who claims to speak as some Republican conscience) “She should be fired,” Navarro said.

So this is the John McCain that can say anything he wants broad brushing whole swaths of people, the sitting president, and/or anyone who disagrees with him with pejorative names. Then Ana Navarro called him “graceful”.

Meghan McCain summed up her latest comments about the critics of John McCain: “My father’s legacy will be talked about for hundreds and hundreds of years,” McCain said. “These people? Nothingburgers. Nobody is going to remember you.”

She also commented toward General Mcinerney for his statement on the Haspel confirmation: “torture worked on McCain, that’s why they call him Somgbird.”

Meghan said “At some point when you’re tortured everyone breaks.”

 

So now we are nothingburgers too. I’ll add that to my long list. What I want to know is one simple thing. Why does McCain habitually get to have the last word?

This idea Sen John McCain must have the last word about everything and no one is allowed to say anything is hogwash. I detest that notion. Where does that come from?

I’ve been called an agent of intolerance, a wacko-bird, among so many other things, and am now told to “go to hell” if I disagree with his handling the dirty dossier. It was McCain that injected it into the bloodstream of the government.

But McCain must always have the last word? We have to shut up? We are not allowed to respond to McCain’s hostile attacks on Trump or Americans. I do not accept it.

Notice too how it usually is McCain or his family who stir up and incite this feud with Trump, conservatives, or us supporters. It’s what John does. We’ve been McCain’s whipping post for at least 18 years. Often it is personal invective and sheer bitterness.

Trump is a counter puncher and does respond, unlike some other people. He has said things in response to McCain’s salvos. Then, when someone complains about McCain, or what he has done, he lashes out and media comes blaming us as the cause of consternation. He picks the fight. That seems to be his way of getting publicity or ginning it up.

 

Here is the problem: media and the left look for anything to use as a wedge between McCain, Trump and conservatives. They want to stir Republican feuds. It is no secret McCain is not well liked. He doesn’t like us, it’s common knowledge. So they create or use every chance they get to feign outrage on behalf of poor John McCain. But why does McCain play along? Why does he have to say anything? He can’t let it go….like we’re supposed to. Trump let it pass when McCain called us spurious nationalists and demeaned our motives. Media tried to provoke Trump to respond. And Meghan plays right along.

On top of that the self-anointed word police in the mainstream media make issues over every statement. They are the street cops — considering they openly called Trump a liar among other things. Who appointed them? I’m tired of McCain’s victimhood.

All the things that were said to and about Trump in the last 2 years — hateful personal attacks about his ability or stability — and yet no one in media or “talking head land” has come out to suggest McCain might consider stepping aside, in view of his medical and physical impediments. Wow, just stunning hypocrisy at its worst.

So Let all those media firings begin immediately for their grievous offenses. Hypocrisy.
McCain has brought this on himself, but he squeals at every response from his victims.

McCain now clearly wants to haunt us for years with his memoir, while we are supposed to be unable to respond because he is a hero or some phony, sainted pillar of bipartisanship. Here I thought, I mean it sure seemed like, our response is what he wanted.

~ Agent of Intolerance

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McCain in ‘his agents of intolerance’ mode

So McCain is worried about his next election. Ah, that’s too bad. Time for blame.

McCain on tape: Trump damages my reelection hopes

‘If Donald Trump is at the top of the ticket,’ … ‘this may be the race of my life.’

By Burgess Everett and Seung Min Kim | 05/05/16 | Politico

Publicly, John McCain insists Donald Trump will have a negligible effect on his campaign for reelection. But behind closed doors at a fundraiser in Arizona last month, the Republican senator and two-time presidential hopeful offered a far more dire assessment to his supporters.

“If Donald Trump is at the top of the ticket, here in Arizona, with over 30 percent of the vote being the Hispanic vote, no doubt that this may be the race of my life,” McCain said, according to a recording of the event obtained by POLITICO. […/]

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-latinos-mccain-222810

From his speech at a private fundraiser:

“People are angry. they’re upset, they feel that there’s this disconnect. All of that and, frankly, there’s an element of nativism in it as well, as you know.”

People are justifiably angry and, Senator McCain, you are one of the chief causes. Ouch, “nativism” in there too? That nasty nationalism, we can’t have that. (Video)

But people didn’t forget what John McCain and his McAmnesty did to our Party, and our country. How we were all undermined and attacked because of you, John. So it’s the election of your life? Maybe it is about time.

But hey, “race of his life” probably makes for great fundraiser fodder though.
This election was another referendum on all that plus Obama’s executive amnesty.

McCain, politics as usual

Now for the other side, since all we hear from media and mouthpieces is about the Trump remark besmearching McCain. Then McCain attempted to broaden the comments as insulting to lots of other militray — not “in the arena.”

Others have criticized Trump because he is a candidate but McCain is not in the race. Though McCain did and has injected himself, as he usually does. That’s the problem with political control, it becomes a very personal thing to those wielding it.

McCain Calls Some Arizonans ‘Crazies’ ‘Fired Up’ by Trump

by Michelle Moons16 Jul 2015 | Breitbart

Five-term U.S. Senator Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) lashed out at his constituents, calling some Arizonans “crazies” and telling a reporter that recent remarks from 2016 Presidential candidate. Donald Trump are “very hurtful” to McCain.

This performance with our friend out in Phoenix is very hurtful to me,” McCain tells a New Yorker reporter. “Because what he did was he fired up the crazies.”

Trump has been decrying the lax state of immigration enforcement in the U.S. and related problem of sanctuary cities. He has brought to national attention the stories of families killed by illegal aliens. Since his announcement, Trump has catapulted to the top of polls for 2016 GOP Presidential hopefuls.

Now he galvanized them,” McCain said. “He’s really got them activated.”

McCain is considered vulnerable in his 2016 bid for re-election.

We have a very extreme element within our Republican Party,” McCain says, apparently referencing January 2014 when members of his own party formally censured him. Those spearheading the censure said McCain had pushed liberal views.

Breitbart News reported that McCain had been censured in a whopping 1,150-351 vote of Maricopa County Republican Party members in January 2014. The resolution read in part, Only in times of great crisis or betrayal is it necessary to publicly censure our leaders. Today we are faced with both. For too long we have waited, hoping Senator McCain would return to our Party’s values on his own. That has not happened.

McCain even copped to lashing back at those GOP leaders, “We did to some degree [to] regain control of the Party.”

Reports indicate that following the censure McCain and his allies launched a political cleansing of the Arizona GOP leadership, ejecting one conservative Republican after another. Politico reported that McCain’s team sought to, “unseat conservative activists who hold obscure, but influential, local party offices.”

Close McCain ally Sen. Lindsay Graham has joined his friend with name-calling and condemning Trump, referring to the real estate mogul as a “wrecking ball.” [latter a jackass]

Arizonans vividly remember a 2010 McCain campaign ad in which he promised to “build the danged [border] fence.” Since that time McCain has not only failed to make good on that promise, but has participated in the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill that would have granted de-facto amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.

Arizona State Senator Kelli Ward on Tuesday announced her bid to serve the people of Arizona in the U.S. Senate and replace Sen. John McCain (R-AZ). She called for border security measures that would further national security. Attendees repeatedly expressed a desire to see McCain removed from his Senate seat with calls to “retire McCain.”

Breitbart

John McCain is actively playing politics as much as anyone.  And he doesn’t like being on the receiving end of criticism. Enter the made to order comments from Trump to rescue an out-of-step McCain already on the defense. Disguising his enemy as “friend” doesn’t sell. Crazies added to hobbits, wacko birds, extremists, agents of intolerance etc…wrecking ball, jackass… as his ‘hit’ list and attacks go on.

Dump on Trump bandwagon

After the statements from Trump on McCain’s war hero status, the road tour began.

Here were McCain’s statements on Morning Joe. Note the demeanor.
If you don’t want to watch all, see opening 2 min. and then @ the 12 min mark.


It’s alright when McCain calls whole swaths of people crazies. Ha ha ha, we’re all used to it. (Wacko birds was funny too, and hobbits etc.) He laughed that he talks to his people all the time. He considered the “crazies” label “a term of endearment”, a compliment.

He even tried twisting it around that he is called crazy by his constituents. Only Obama calls us as many names as McCain. He expects people to side with him against trump. He’ll be watching the polls.

Here’s Lindsey Graham calling Trump a Jackass. Way to go…keep yourself relevant

“This is the beginning of the end of Donald Trump”…”I am really pissed.” — says angry Lindsey Graham. He got the jackass in twice. (see a scheme of Mc-Graham?)

Unless McCain didn’t get the message from Obama, he lost the election with the GOP nomination. Now he’s right back here lecturing us and calling us names, as usual. What about the apology he owed the GOP base since about 2000?

Now McCain is playing politics with an insult he started, while he calls his own constituents names along with the Party base. And Graham is one pissed off cracker, for sure.

Update: Des Moines Register Editorial calls on Trump to drop out.

McCain Hires O’Bagy

Usually when a person is exposed for padding her resume, it’s difficult to land high-prestige jobs.

That’s not the case for Elisabeth O’Bagy, hired last week by U.S. Sen. John McCain as a legislative assistant. O’Bagy, 26, became an influential analyst on policy toward Syria after publishing a column in the Wall Street Journal which advocated arming Syrian rebels fighting dictator Bashar al-Assad despite concerns about radical jihadists in their ranks.

It turns out O’Bagy lied about having a PhD. and worked as the Syrian Emergency Task Force‘s political director when the group helped arrange a secret trip to Syria for McCain to meet rebel leaders last May. Several task force officials have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and reports indicate that the Arizona Republican inadvertently met with terrorists on his trip.

Meanwhile, O’Bagy also vouched for Eric Harroun, an American who fought with Syrian rebels, in a sworn affidavit. Harroun was charged with providing material support to al-Qaida affiliated terrorists, but O’Bagy claimed Harroun fought with an independent group called the Al Aqsa Islamic Brigades, Fox News reported.

Harroun signed a sealed plea agreement to a lesser charge in Alexandria, Va. Sept. 19, sentenced to time served and released.

McCain chose to embrace O’Bagy despite her academic fraud and work with questionable forces in Syria’s opposition.

“Elizabeth is a talented researcher, and I have been very impressed by her knowledge and analysis in multiple briefings over the last year,” McCain told The Cable

IPT News